>>greg: big time. there could be another trial, right? >>jonathan: we have not heard yet as to whether they want to retry the case or if one imagines they will. the judge set a hearing to discuss whether there should be another trial, and that will take place on september 2nd and roger clemens left the court as you saw there and headed to a nearby restaurant with the defense team, a fancy restaurant known as the "caucus room," probably dining on lobster and steak and celebrating. >>greg: prosecutors have luncheon crow, meanwhile. thank you, jonathan, and jonathan will chat about this. just go online at foxnews.com/shep on "on the hunt," link. and now to talk more about this is lis wiehl former federal prosecutor, and arthur aidala and a veteran criminal against tone. good to see you both. if roger clemens confesses something to andy pettitte who tells his wife, that is not just hearsay it is double hearsay. >>guest: a person who is not taking the stand who tells someone else who tolls someone else. all i can say in defense of the prosecut